12:10:14 <nijel> #startmeeting Monthly meeting 2017-07
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12:10:44 <nijel> #topic Team meeting at DebConf
12:11:11 <nijel> As we have single topic, let's start ;-)
12:12:14 <nijel> I will start with my status: I have everything booked and ready (fortunately I don't need visa, just eTA, so it was pretty easy)
12:14:08 <madhuracj> In my case, I have applied for a visa and expect a result by next week and I have delayed booking everything till I hear about a result.
12:15:21 <ibennetch> I've been running a bit behind with my side of things, although I do not need a visa and have all the travel documents I require.
12:15:48 <DevenB> I have my flight tickets booked (will apply for a reimbursement with Conservancy later). The visa application (which required return tickets attached) is still in process, and I expect it to done by 25th July.
12:16:50 <nijel> I'm affraid Maurício will not make it as he didn't even have passport when I've offered him to come, but let's see how things will go there...
12:18:32 <nijel> Hopefully the visa will work fine for both DevenB and madhuracj and we will finally have reasonably big team meeting.
12:18:59 <madhuracj> Fingers crossed
12:19:23 <nijel> Marc should also come to Montreal, we've preliminarily agreed on having lunch somewhere near DebConf venue, but details still to be clarified.
12:19:56 <ibennetch> It is quite annoying to me how the process works: you can't apply for a visa too early, you must usually have your flights booked first, and then if you don't get the visa in time you can't fly. It's an annoying order of doing things :)
12:20:13 <ibennetch> Yes, Marc mentioned that he's looking forward to meeting with the team. It will be nice to see him.
12:20:33 <madhuracj> Indeed, the visa process is a pain
12:20:54 <madhuracj> Btw, did Dan show any interest in attending?
12:22:24 <nijel> I didn't hear anything from Dan about that (and I didn't ask)
12:25:24 <nijel> Anyway second important thing: We should schedule what we want to discuss (and do) there.
12:25:32 <nijel> I've just created wiki page: https://github.com/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin/wiki/2017-08_Meeting_(DebConf17)
12:28:12 <ibennetch> One of the things I most enjoyed from previous meetings was where everyone collaborated on some improvements. There was a point where we were all sitting around the LinuxTag booth, discussing issues and everyone was fixing something. There were many commits in that short time :)
12:28:26 <nijel> Feel free to add topics there
12:28:27 <ibennetch> But that just happened organically, we don't need to schedule some hack session.
12:28:34 <ibennetch> Sure thing, if I think of anything I will.
12:29:15 <nijel> Yes, having hacking session is something I was thinking of as well. We probably could do some kind of bug squashing as I have problems managing all the incoming bugs...
12:29:16 <madhuracj> Agreed, a hackathon session would be nice
12:29:47 <ibennetch> For those who haven't yet attended a meeting, we usually have a big meeting to discuss the state of the project and future design decisions, too. This is quite handy as everyone can voice their opinion in person.
12:30:50 <DevenB> Thanks for that info, ibennetch. :-)
12:32:34 <ibennetch> I think I have nothing else to add to the conversation at this time.
12:33:51 <nijel> madhuracj: as you haven't booked yet your flights, please note that Conservancy policy is to book at least 14 days in advance
12:34:10 <nijel> we can probably get an exception if needed, but it would be easier if you fit into that
12:34:22 <nijel> and probably same applies to ibennetch...
12:34:50 <ibennetch> Ok
12:34:53 <madhuracj> I noticed that. I will go on to book flights if I do not get a result by early next week
12:34:55 <ibennetch> Thanks for the reminder.
12:35:32 <nijel> the full policy is here:
12:35:54 <madhuracj> Thanks nijel
12:35:58 <nijel> #link https://k.sfconservancy.org/policies/files/master/Travel/conservancy-travel-policy.txt#L50
12:36:52 <madhuracj> And did we finalize the date (or possible dates) of the meeting?
12:37:46 <nijel> I think we ended up on 7th and 8th August...
12:37:47 <madhuracj> From the email thread it looks like we all have 7th and 8th overlapping
12:38:07 <nijel> DevenB: did you manage to move your Toronto visit?
12:39:08 <DevenB> Yes. I have moved it to 9th and 10th August.
12:39:30 <nijel> Great, so I think we're set with the dates.
12:39:39 <ibennetch> I may try to arrive mid day on the 7th. I'm not sure how early I could arrive based on flight schedules.
12:41:07 <nijel> Okay
12:41:18 <nijel> I don't have anything else to discuss ;-)
12:42:57 <ibennetch> I'd like to quickly plug the work of my GSoC students.
12:42:57 <ibennetch> Although not really as part of the meeting, just to mention.
12:42:57 <nijel> #topic GSoC
12:42:59 <nijel> Sure, go ahead
12:43:11 <ibennetch> The mobile interface has been merged and the replacement "Query" interface likely will be merged today, so these things could use some extensive testing.
12:43:24 <ibennetch> Since they're major rewrites to areas of the code that aren't often used.
12:43:50 <ibennetch> All of our GSoC students are doing great work this summer :)
12:44:11 <ibennetch> That is all.
12:44:21 <nijel> Thanks for heads up, it wold be great if the Query interface would come with Selenium tests as well, so that it can be automatically tested (not sure if you were considering this).
12:45:31 <madhuracj> Great. Will spend some testing these features
12:46:40 <nijel> I think DevenB is also doing good job in GSoC ;-)
12:46:58 <ibennetch> Thanks for mentioning the Selenium tests. Often I think of the phpunit tests and forget Selenium because, well, so many are broken and I don't understand them as well as the others. RaghuRam__ and I will condsider this :)
12:47:33 <ibennetch> That smiley was meant in response to the Deven comment, I just missed the newline first
12:48:10 <nijel> Most of the Selenium tests should be working now, I've already merged Deven's fixes
12:49:27 <DevenB> I am fixing the table related tests right now (which you can expect to be broken for now). After these are done, I might add a few more test cases related to the existing features.
12:49:56 <ibennetch> That's great.
12:52:02 <ibennetch> Is there an online server where we run Selenium or must I run it in my browser? Travis doesn't run those tests for us, correct?
12:52:29 <nijel> Travis does run them on BrowserStack, I believe you have access there, so you can use it locally as wel
12:54:05 <nijel> They are just failing and marked as allowed failures: https://travis-ci.org/phpmyadmin/phpmyadmin/jobs/252775687
12:57:11 <nijel> Anything else to discuss? :-)
12:58:04 <ibennetch> Yes, I see now. Thanks for the clarification.
12:58:08 <ibennetch> No, nothing else from me.
13:00:43 <nijel> BTW: I've just checked that all you have access to BrowserStack
13:01:00 <nijel> So thanks for attending and see you on DebConf!
13:01:54 <DevenB> Thank you everyone! See you at DebConf! :-)
13:05:58 <nijel> #endmeeting